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		<title>Comment on How To Tell If A Passive Aggressive Is Lying&#8230; by Tash</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 07:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been rsearching passive aggression and came across your blog. This article really struck a cord with me. My PA boyfriend is just the same I didn&#039;t find out he was 10 years older than he&#039;d have me believe till our daughter was a few months old and then found out a year later he&#039;s in 25,000 euro worth of debt! And yes when I pulled him up on both things (because ofcourse I just happened to find these out he never told me) they were intitially not a big deal and following that I shouldn&#039;t have asked because it was none of my business!! Now a year later I&#039;m not aloud to bring either situation up. I&#039;m only 23 and feel like I&#039;m 43, does it ever get easier? How do I even broach the subject of passive aggression with him without it blowing up in my face? :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been rsearching passive aggression and came across your blog. This article really struck a cord with me. My PA boyfriend is just the same I didn&#8217;t find out he was 10 years older than he&#8217;d have me believe till our daughter was a few months old and then found out a year later he&#8217;s in 25,000 euro worth of debt! And yes when I pulled him up on both things (because ofcourse I just happened to find these out he never told me) they were intitially not a big deal and following that I shouldn&#8217;t have asked because it was none of my business!! Now a year later I&#8217;m not aloud to bring either situation up. I&#8217;m only 23 and feel like I&#8217;m 43, does it ever get easier? How do I even broach the subject of passive aggression with him without it blowing up in my face? <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Leaving The Passive Aggressive- Now What? by Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 13:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Thank you and more thank you&#039;s for this amazing blog. 

If it wasn&#039;t for you guys here I think I might have gone insane!!! I had no idea that PA could be so deadly. And it is. It kills people slowly by depriving them of love, affection, companionship and the wonderful gift of life. And if not treated they are gonna die very lonely people. That I believe in my heart. 

I have recently broken up with my PA boyfriend, who is also and alcoholic sober (I use that term loosely) for 22 yrs. I fell in love with that man the 1st month we were together and the relationship moved very quickly from there. He move in and here I am 8 months later miserable. The guise he put on soon dissapeared,but I was hooked!!! 

I did everything I could think of to make things better, special sheets on the bed, dinner every night, doing everything he hasn&#039;t had in years nothing worked, in fact they got worse. The withholding of intimacy and affection, the non-verbal/one sided conversations grew worse every day.  I knew nothing of PA disorder until I was complaining to my girlfriend and she said &quot;:that sounds so PA&quot; And it dawned on me...he was. He was adopted @ the age of 3 by alcoholic parents, the father being horribly abusive in every way and the mother not being a mother either. His whole childhood a nightmare! And so the beat goes on.

My boyfriend is classic #1 with a little sprinkle of the others added. I received an education here and and understanding of this disorder. It&#039;s amazing how  I lowered the bar everyday, sacrificing myself self respect and my expectations.

I&#039;m still crying everyday,but not for the same reason, my ego is smashed by him because he&#039;s not fighting for what he wants. And I want him to, but that is certainly not gonna happen. This I know. He&#039;s just letting everything &quot;slip away&quot; and that really hurts. So much in fact I have had a headache for the last 5 days, since I asked him to leave. I had been working up to it for quite some time now, praying for the strength to do it. Sick as it may sound I was almost willing to deal with it, (I can fix him). But I imagined my life 5 yrs from now and it wasn&#039;t pretty. I knew if I felt this way now it wasn&#039;t gonna get any better. Just worse. 

I am so angry and saddened for him that this is his life. And he knows he needs help, but is too stubborn to go back to therapy. He had been in therapy for years at one time. But I think he&#039;s just too darn stubborn to let go and dive into this therapy with everything he&#039;s got. He see it as a sign of weakness and embarrassment. 

But, with your help and the other people here it has shed so much light on everything. I know my hurt will subside in time. And I&#039;m gonna be alright. Before I didn&#039;t know what was wrong. And what a load off my back when I found this blog. I can not express to you my thanks enough. Thank you again for showing me the whole story.

Jen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Thank you and more thank you&#8217;s for this amazing blog. </p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for you guys here I think I might have gone insane!!! I had no idea that PA could be so deadly. And it is. It kills people slowly by depriving them of love, affection, companionship and the wonderful gift of life. And if not treated they are gonna die very lonely people. That I believe in my heart. </p>
<p>I have recently broken up with my PA boyfriend, who is also and alcoholic sober (I use that term loosely) for 22 yrs. I fell in love with that man the 1st month we were together and the relationship moved very quickly from there. He move in and here I am 8 months later miserable. The guise he put on soon dissapeared,but I was hooked!!! </p>
<p>I did everything I could think of to make things better, special sheets on the bed, dinner every night, doing everything he hasn&#8217;t had in years nothing worked, in fact they got worse. The withholding of intimacy and affection, the non-verbal/one sided conversations grew worse every day.  I knew nothing of PA disorder until I was complaining to my girlfriend and she said &#8220;:that sounds so PA&#8221; And it dawned on me&#8230;he was. He was adopted @ the age of 3 by alcoholic parents, the father being horribly abusive in every way and the mother not being a mother either. His whole childhood a nightmare! And so the beat goes on.</p>
<p>My boyfriend is classic #1 with a little sprinkle of the others added. I received an education here and and understanding of this disorder. It&#8217;s amazing how  I lowered the bar everyday, sacrificing myself self respect and my expectations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still crying everyday,but not for the same reason, my ego is smashed by him because he&#8217;s not fighting for what he wants. And I want him to, but that is certainly not gonna happen. This I know. He&#8217;s just letting everything &#8220;slip away&#8221; and that really hurts. So much in fact I have had a headache for the last 5 days, since I asked him to leave. I had been working up to it for quite some time now, praying for the strength to do it. Sick as it may sound I was almost willing to deal with it, (I can fix him). But I imagined my life 5 yrs from now and it wasn&#8217;t pretty. I knew if I felt this way now it wasn&#8217;t gonna get any better. Just worse. </p>
<p>I am so angry and saddened for him that this is his life. And he knows he needs help, but is too stubborn to go back to therapy. He had been in therapy for years at one time. But I think he&#8217;s just too darn stubborn to let go and dive into this therapy with everything he&#8217;s got. He see it as a sign of weakness and embarrassment. </p>
<p>But, with your help and the other people here it has shed so much light on everything. I know my hurt will subside in time. And I&#8217;m gonna be alright. Before I didn&#8217;t know what was wrong. And what a load off my back when I found this blog. I can not express to you my thanks enough. Thank you again for showing me the whole story.</p>
<p>Jen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Happy Mother&#8217;s Day! How Does Your Passive Aggressive Handle It? by JUDY</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 09:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HE DIDN&#039;T MENTION IT EXCEPT WHEN THE FERRY WAS LATE BECAUSE COME TO FIND OUT MOTHERS DAY IS THE BUSIEST DAY OF THE YEAR..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HE DIDN&#8217;T MENTION IT EXCEPT WHEN THE FERRY WAS LATE BECAUSE COME TO FIND OUT MOTHERS DAY IS THE BUSIEST DAY OF THE YEAR..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Happy Mother&#8217;s Day! How Does Your Passive Aggressive Handle It? by Marilyn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 20:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love reading the blog. Happy Mother&#039;s Day. Your forever sister, Marilyn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love reading the blog. Happy Mother&#8217;s Day. Your forever sister, Marilyn</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leaving The Passive Aggressive- Now What? by mary mclaughlin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 10:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello again, Thanks for your lovely reply. You said that his sister called you and SAID SOME NOT SO NICE THINGS about his pregnant girlfriend.Do you really want to know all this nasty stuff?...you certainly do not need it. Take their calls if you want ...but be very cautious.....don&#039;t get roped into nonsense.As for his mother, listen to what she has to say, be courteous and very pleasant, sound happy and say very very little. When you don&#039;t get involved with slagging your ex.....they will all soon get fed up phoning.----Wait and see. 
You take care and try not to give any one much off your precious time. Treasure that time for you to heal. I will be thinking about you. Please believe me.......you will get over all this in due time.
Kind regards
Mary]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again, Thanks for your lovely reply. You said that his sister called you and SAID SOME NOT SO NICE THINGS about his pregnant girlfriend.Do you really want to know all this nasty stuff?&#8230;you certainly do not need it. Take their calls if you want &#8230;but be very cautious&#8230;..don&#8217;t get roped into nonsense.As for his mother, listen to what she has to say, be courteous and very pleasant, sound happy and say very very little. When you don&#8217;t get involved with slagging your ex&#8230;..they will all soon get fed up phoning.&#8212;-Wait and see.<br />
You take care and try not to give any one much off your precious time. Treasure that time for you to heal. I will be thinking about you. Please believe me&#8230;&#8230;.you will get over all this in due time.<br />
Kind regards<br />
Mary</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leaving The Passive Aggressive- Now What? by Pa Free</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pa Free]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 02:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mary
Your message made my day. Thank you for your kind and encouraging words. They mean more than you know. 
You are absolutely right. If he knows that it&#039;s something I really want, he&#039;ll drag it out. It helps to be able to predict his behaviour now and I&#039;ve mostly reacted with silence, although that it very difficult at times.
I received a surprising call from his sister the other day. I didn&#039;t know that it was her calling since her number is blocked. She said that she misses me and that her daughter misses her auntie. That was pretty tough to hear. I was very surprised that she called because I haven&#039;t heard from her since I asked him to move out 6 months ago. She also told me that he lied to the family, which I already knew. She also said some not so nice things about his pregnant girlfriend. I simply told her that I am glad that he left and that I am happy, because he is not the person I thought he was. She also asked me to go for lunch but I will probably decline. I need to move on and keeping in touch with any of them is not a good idea as far as I can see.
I&#039;m just worried that the next call will be from his mother and I really don&#039;t know what I would say to her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary<br />
Your message made my day. Thank you for your kind and encouraging words. They mean more than you know.<br />
You are absolutely right. If he knows that it&#8217;s something I really want, he&#8217;ll drag it out. It helps to be able to predict his behaviour now and I&#8217;ve mostly reacted with silence, although that it very difficult at times.<br />
I received a surprising call from his sister the other day. I didn&#8217;t know that it was her calling since her number is blocked. She said that she misses me and that her daughter misses her auntie. That was pretty tough to hear. I was very surprised that she called because I haven&#8217;t heard from her since I asked him to move out 6 months ago. She also told me that he lied to the family, which I already knew. She also said some not so nice things about his pregnant girlfriend. I simply told her that I am glad that he left and that I am happy, because he is not the person I thought he was. She also asked me to go for lunch but I will probably decline. I need to move on and keeping in touch with any of them is not a good idea as far as I can see.<br />
I&#8217;m just worried that the next call will be from his mother and I really don&#8217;t know what I would say to her.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leaving The Passive Aggressive- Now What? by mary mclaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mary mclaughlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 10:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Hope all is good with you. He may stall because some PA&#039;s will do that to annoy you. Just toodle on ....the divorce will be granted in it&#039;s own time. Take care. I have lit a candle for you this morning. Everything will work out for you!
Regards
Mary]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Hope all is good with you. He may stall because some PA&#8217;s will do that to annoy you. Just toodle on &#8230;.the divorce will be granted in it&#8217;s own time. Take care. I have lit a candle for you this morning. Everything will work out for you!<br />
Regards<br />
Mary</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leaving The Passive Aggressive- Now What? by Pa Free</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pa Free]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 02:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mary
Why do you think he&#039;d stall on the divorce if I try to speed it up? I&#039;m still so new to this behaviour that anything he does makes my head spin.
You&#039;re right, it is just a house. I thought I&#039;d be more upset since this was our home but I actually felt a huge relief. I guess I&#039;m making progress even if it is in baby steps :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mary<br />
Why do you think he&#8217;d stall on the divorce if I try to speed it up? I&#8217;m still so new to this behaviour that anything he does makes my head spin.<br />
You&#8217;re right, it is just a house. I thought I&#8217;d be more upset since this was our home but I actually felt a huge relief. I guess I&#8217;m making progress even if it is in baby steps <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Leaving The Passive Aggressive- Now What? by rogue13</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 15:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad to hear that your house sold, Mary.  I am in a very similar life situation with a PA man who is also extremely narcissistic and who is having an affair on me while I am pregnant.

So anyway, there is another wonderful website that has some links about this behavior.  It&#039;s largely for people dealing with infidelity, but has lots about marriage, family and life.  People can just browse or they can post their stories and get feedback/advice.  It&#039;s helped me intensely and I wanted to share it.  It&#039;s &quot;surviving Infidelity.com&quot;.  On it are all kinds of people, from all over the earth, in various stages of dealing with adultery.  There are also spouses who did it and want to reconcile.

Some people will tell it like it is and can come across as more harsh than others, but again, it&#039;s provided more help and comfort to me than some every day life has.

The advice about meeting with family on your WS side (wayward spouse) is really good, because what if the sister goes back and tells him?

What I found in that regard is that losing his family for me meant more change and I suspect that&#039;s really what I want to hold onto-any sameness I can.  Yes, I too, try to be simple and not give much away for words, for they can show up anywhere on the wind or in the plumbing and come back to haunt.

What I&#039;m finding is that karma is something that &quot;comes around the mountain&quot; like Grandma and people who lie usually can&#039;t do it forever.  My ex is having this happen and is slowly running out of resources in his family and also, they and others are seeing through some of it at a time.

It&#039;s just so much change all at once, so much to sort through and make sense of.

And yes, as you fill in the new pages of life&#039;s book, I hope they will contain periods of sun and rainbows now and surety of yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear that your house sold, Mary.  I am in a very similar life situation with a PA man who is also extremely narcissistic and who is having an affair on me while I am pregnant.</p>
<p>So anyway, there is another wonderful website that has some links about this behavior.  It&#8217;s largely for people dealing with infidelity, but has lots about marriage, family and life.  People can just browse or they can post their stories and get feedback/advice.  It&#8217;s helped me intensely and I wanted to share it.  It&#8217;s &#8220;surviving Infidelity.com&#8221;.  On it are all kinds of people, from all over the earth, in various stages of dealing with adultery.  There are also spouses who did it and want to reconcile.</p>
<p>Some people will tell it like it is and can come across as more harsh than others, but again, it&#8217;s provided more help and comfort to me than some every day life has.</p>
<p>The advice about meeting with family on your WS side (wayward spouse) is really good, because what if the sister goes back and tells him?</p>
<p>What I found in that regard is that losing his family for me meant more change and I suspect that&#8217;s really what I want to hold onto-any sameness I can.  Yes, I too, try to be simple and not give much away for words, for they can show up anywhere on the wind or in the plumbing and come back to haunt.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m finding is that karma is something that &#8220;comes around the mountain&#8221; like Grandma and people who lie usually can&#8217;t do it forever.  My ex is having this happen and is slowly running out of resources in his family and also, they and others are seeing through some of it at a time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just so much change all at once, so much to sort through and make sense of.</p>
<p>And yes, as you fill in the new pages of life&#8217;s book, I hope they will contain periods of sun and rainbows now and surety of yourself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Leaving The Passive Aggressive- Now What? by mary mclaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mary mclaughlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 15:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad that the house sold! remember it is only a house.When and if you have any contact with his family....try not to go on about him.He has already taken too much off your &quot;head space&quot;. Take each day as it comes. Don&#039;t hassle about a speedy divorce as he may use this and drag things out.Let your solicitor deal with that.Don&#039;t get me wrong there will be good days and some bad days.....but the freedom is your reward.When you carry a burden and then get rid off it...it can feel strange..please do not take on another burden off any kind.Enjoy your time....do things that you always wanted to do. e.g.@ zumba classes, learn something new, whatever---- make a list for yourself.
I wish you the very best in your new chapter in life.
Regards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad that the house sold! remember it is only a house.When and if you have any contact with his family&#8230;.try not to go on about him.He has already taken too much off your &#8220;head space&#8221;. Take each day as it comes. Don&#8217;t hassle about a speedy divorce as he may use this and drag things out.Let your solicitor deal with that.Don&#8217;t get me wrong there will be good days and some bad days&#8230;..but the freedom is your reward.When you carry a burden and then get rid off it&#8230;it can feel strange..please do not take on another burden off any kind.Enjoy your time&#8230;.do things that you always wanted to do. e.g.@ zumba classes, learn something new, whatever&#8212;- make a list for yourself.<br />
I wish you the very best in your new chapter in life.<br />
Regards</p>
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